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&gt; The deal would mean Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky giving up the entire eastern Donbas, Crimea and parts of Luhansk and Donetsk, where fighting is still raging, unnamed sources told Bloomberg.

&gt; Ukraine has not agreed to the proposed deal, Bloomberg reported

gradientz

US-Russia peace deal?  To end our war with Russia?

SidewaysFancyPrance

SadBadPuppyDad

I guess the Russians reminded Trump of the kompromat they have on him.

wyvernx02

Why would anyone who isn’t working for Putin agree to this

NickYuk

ah yes, giving up territory to russia, which is very well-known for honoring its deals and definitely won't just immediately start attacking again after getting the land (because who the fuck is going to stop them)

swamp_god

Didn’t he try this before and Ukraine told him to kick rocks?

GoGoGadgetElbowSkis

Trump is compromised. All the tough talk in the past couple months has been nonsense. Another clue was his whining about Russia not being in the G8 anymore

Choppergold

It's the same shit as always with Trump and Putin

* Russia gets to keep what it's currently occupying 
* Ukraine is barred from joining NATO
* Which allows Russia to invade Ukraine a 3rd time in the next 15 years without Ukraine getting aid from foreign troops. They invaded in 2014. Then 8 years later in 2022. And they'll invade again by 2040.

dating_derp

I hope our European allies have more sense than to reward Russia/Putin for their invasion.

C_Kent_

Trump doesn’t give a shit what is in the deal. He just wants a deal so he can tell everyone he brokered “The biggest and best deal ever. It would be impossible for anyone else to make a deal like this!”

tg19801980

I know Mr Zelenskyy refused to give up a quarter of his country for no gain and no security the last few times it's been suggested, but I really think THIS TIME will work...

SumpkinPeeds

So Ukraine is supposed to surrender and cede land, just like that, without Security guarantees and with their mineral resources exploited? What a deal.

rapidcreek409

Not only a distraction, but a complete misrepresentation. This deal gives Russia everything it wants, and is basically making Ukraine capitulate (and they have not agreed yet)

MrRightHanded

A 'peace' deal that divides up another country's land. That is so on brand for America

Livid-Movie79

Another day, another distraction from the epstein files.

Nekowulf

inactivemember99

Didn't Russian TV mention they have blackmail over trump like a week ago? It's embarrassing how common knowledge it is in Russia. I mean what other reason would there be for trump to always give Putin everything he wants when they have no ground to stand on?

trunksshinohara

This is a prelude to WW3 because the bitterness out of this conflict will reignite in later years. We call this appeasement. This is not a deal. This is the Sudetenland aka Peace in our time Chamberlain repeating itself. 

Trump will come out and say this is a win…and Fox News propaganda will push his talking points for his “Nobel Peace” prize quest…

Efficient_Resist_287

On behalf of the Americans who aren’t some combination of idiotic, fascist, and traitors, I apologize to the world that we have yet again saddled everyone with this horrible disease of a human.

bbqsox

Wow another peace deal that excludes Ukraine from negotiations and unsurprisingly gives Russia everything it wants. I’m sure Ukraine will love it

Lysol3435

accountabilitycounts

Well we did promise to protect Ukraine in exchange for giving up nuclear weapons. That clearly hasn’t worked out well…so why are we surprised we’re giving up their land too? 

Awful administration. What a horrible situation.

im_just_a_nerd

Ukraine is obviously never going to accept any deal between Russia and the US

captaincanada84

Why are we letting a child rapist paedophile with obvious kompromat against him negotiate anything more than his own lengthy prison sentence?

ilikebiiiigdicks

RoamingDrunk

Well, Russia probably wrote the deal themselves. Of course it favors them.

halfsweethalfstreet

They just want to paint Ukraine as the bad guys. "See Russia wants peace! But Ukraine wants more war." Any negotiation that takes place without Ukraine is a non-starter and political theater.

TemporaryCaptain23

So once again Donald's Big plan is to Cave to Putin and give him exactly what he wants. He's such a great deal maker! Say what you want about Kamala but she was right about this, he's weak and sucks up to strong men.

lonewolfncub3k

IndomitableThomunism

eflowers62

Not gunna hold and release the Epstein files

Unfair_Commercial

CheesecakeHorror3410

antilittlepink

Why is this even news? It's not like Ukraine would sign such a one-sided deal

malici606

Sprittt

There's no win for Russia here. Ukraine won't agree to this. This is just Trump distracting from Epstein with the exact same thing he tried earlier in the year.

Amenian

Even if you thought that Russia were somehow trustworthy, this sort of deal is insane. The message is basically: if you launch a full-scale invasion of another country and manage to hold onto enough of their land for long enough, the US will come along and let you have it.

Three_Froggy_Problem

Interesting how a “peace deal” is being negotiated without Ukraines approval or input.

ShirtPitiful8872

“US-Russia Peace Deal” says it all. No mention of Ukraine at all. Trump spreading his cheeks for daddy Putin once again

prickwhowaspromised

This would make much more sense if the U.S. and Russia were at war.  But making these plans without really even having the other party (Ukraine) in the negotiations, is not only asinine but pointless.

Donald Trump acts as such a good Russian asset.  Money well spent.

DramaticWesley

Man....what did he do on that island with those kids?!

Separate_Custard_754

He put tariffs on India and essentially shat on Ukraine to pull this crap?

hinterstoisser

Trump can suck a dick… traitorous scum. (we all know Putin’s cock is the one he sucks.)

Simplyspent

Looks like Putin has a copy of the files as well 😂

nopointinlife1234

willfrodo

Jsoledout

voyagerdoge

Trump is just a Russian operative. They have something on him.

SheepherderNo6320

This won't be honored by Ukraine and NATO will likely back them. I dont think this really changes anything except the script Trump will use for his political theater when he pretends it is Ukraine that broke the peace deal. 

RexDraco

You. Don't. Cede. Land. To. Invaders!

Russia is learning that if it can take land and hold it for a few years the US will just get frustrated and give it to them. If this disaster goes through we will see another invasion as soon as Russia builds back its military.

Withyhydra

So Ukraine will say no and we’re back to our regularly scheduled war

SilentAntagonist

It’s all part of their plan.

Now Zelinsky is gonna look like he doesn’t want a deal, and Trump is gonna use that as an excuse to stop weapons to Ukraine.

The puppet will do as he is told by his master.

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This framing misses the core problem: no matter how artfully Trump and Putin shake hands in Alaska, Ukraine is the only party with legitimate sovereignty over Ukraine’s future. Any “peace” deal that excludes Kyiv from the table isn’t peace; it’s an imposed settlement dressed up as diplomacy.

History has a name for that: appeasement. The Munich Agreement of 1938 taught us exactly what happens when you trade away someone else’s territory for the promise of “ending the killing.” You embolden the aggressor, incentivize further land grabs, and leave the victim weaker and more isolated.

Yes, Russia is under strain. But that’s precisely why Ukraine and its allies have leverage right now. Giving away Ukrainian land in exchange for a pause in fighting doesn’t solve the conflict, it freezes it on terms favorable to Moscow, giving Putin time to rearm and try again.

If you actually want a “lasting peace,” the formula is simple:


1. Ukraine negotiates directly, backed by its allies.

2. Any deal includes security guarantees enforceable by the international community.

3. Territorial concessions aren’t the opening bid — they’re the last resort, if at all.


Otherwise, Alaska is just a stage for two men to negotiate over a country neither of them owns, while the one under attack is told to accept the scraps.

baebae4455

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These talks are a complete farce, some grandstanding attempt by Trump to claim he is doing something. Russia’s promises aren’t worth the paper they’re written on, and Ukraine will never agree to terms they didn’t negotiate in which they give up everything and receive nothing.

ThePowerOfStories

To whose benefit an agreement is very much a matter of opinion. From the point of view of Ukraine: will it put them better than at the beginning of the war in 2014? No way. Will it put them better than right now? Possibly. Will it put them better than what they are hoping to gain in the future? No way. Since Russia already gained a lot of territory, any agreement at this time will really be to Russia's benefit if you use the situation at the beginning of the war as baseline. 

If part of the agreement is that Ukraine gets no more support from the US, they'll have to agree to an armistice pretty much. Presumably they'd still insist on some security guarantees. The EU just won't get asked I suspect. What can they do if Russia, USA and Ukraine agree on something?

antonulrich

Any "peace agreement" means nothing without Ukrainian representatives present. It seems to be a power ploy by Putin and trump, similar to the oval office ambush by trump a few months ago.  Where they may agree to a cease fire if Ukraine withdraws from Donbas, and then be able to spout than Ukraine doesn't want peace after they, of fucking course, reject the bullshit deal. Moscow will never stop short of the entire country so any agreement or guarantee from them is as thin as the paper it's written on. Any cease fire will immediately be broken by Russia and blamed on Ukraine, and trump will inevitably parrot the Moscow propaganda around it. 

The only way to end the war without the erasure of Ukraine as a nation and a people is to give them everything they need to win the fight. Peace will only be obtained with the destruction of the Russian military and the ousting of their current leadership.

IwonderifWUT

I think they will "accept" not being able to do much about it. Russia will continue to threaten all states it borders and those countries each have to decide what that relationship will allow; eg Germany has many Russians at heart or by blood and has strong ties to Russia. Poland's people would never, ever capitulate anything to Russia that it isn't forced to.

NoVaFlipFlops

As a Ukrainian I think:
- This is not a question of territories, the whole of this war. For politics yes, maybe, if you just look on the map, don't dive into details and think "well, we give one side these, and the other side these". The base is: Russia attacked, occupied and destroyed some Ukrainian territories and cities (including Crimea and Donbass). The normal thing to expect for any country would be: reparations (they must pay for each house they destroyed, each factory they stole, each life they took, etc). It is not only a land question. They have zero rights on these lands (Putin may lie about history, we have our history too - they already took a lot of Ukrainian land with Ukrainians on them - Kuban, Belgorod, etc - 100 years ago). 
- Now Putin's proposition is basically: "you give us your most fortified territories which are difficult for us to take. And we promise you - we will think about some sort of negotiation" :) Well, it is not a proposition, it is just a joke. 
- For Trump and Witkoff, who don't know anything about this war, situation now, details - for them this might look like a "Putin's peace deal proposition". And this is dangerous because Trump might push Zelensky to sign it up, despite the fact it is not a real proposition. 
- Trump lost the battle before it started this winter, when he said "we will give Russia some territories and Ukraine is gonna be in NATO" before even the process of negotiations starts. 
- Now Trump lost several times already because he promised some actions against Russia - and here we are again. No actions, no sanctions. Putin has been fooling him for half a year already. 
- Putin understands only power, attack, and damage. If you wanna push him to stop the war - You have to deal a huge damage to him, to his army, to his oil business. You must destroy him, to show him his place in this world. He is not a powerful world leader. The one thing his good at is lies. That is why Zelensky told Trump on the very beginning - we don't trust Russia. And he was right. How to understand that Putin lies - he opens his mouth.

About the lands. 
- Ukraine can actually consider territories exchange, but
- It must be an exchange, not capitulation, not a gift. If Russians want territories A and B, they have to give us territories C and D. It works only this way
- Ukraine will never recognize it officially, only "you can borrow it for some time, until Putin dies, and we have a conversation with the new gov, which might want to trade not fight. And in this case the give us everything back, pay HUGE reparations, and have normal business with no sanctions". This is the only way it can work
- Because everything now looks like - you can invade any country and have zero consequences. You can kill civilians left and right, torture them, rape, make war crimes - like massive war crimes, with kilometres of dead body fields - and you will be ok? And everybody is ok with it?  Tomorrow the same will happen in Latvia, a week later - in Poland. Everybody around the world can do whatever they want? No. Russia must have such powerful consequences, so it never happens again.
- So, yeah, temporary territories exchange (for both sides, not only Ukraine) might be considered, just to stop this fight.

majakovskij

Ukraine in the last couple of days has blown up a major Russian refinery, a railroad, a bridge, several satellite systems, major air defences system, which allowed Ukraine to send drones 600 miles into Russia and blow up a major Russian drone factory. So Ukraine can just keep doing that for months regardless of what Trump and Putin do. Norway and Germany have given Ukraine Patriot air systems. Ukraine can keep going for the rest of the year. Ukraine will not surrender territory to Russia because Russia will use that territory to move closer to major Ukrainian cities to attack.

_flying_otter_

Trump is so desperate for a peace prize that he'll give Putin anything he wants to get it.

Zelenskyy has been quite clear that the Ukrainian constitution protects the territorial integrity of the nation, and Europe has his back because we know what happened when Hitler was appeased similarly.

This might be is Neville Chamberlain moment.

epsilona01

Zelenskyy can only agree to giving up land if the Ukrainian government approves it thru amending their constitution. 

It does not seem likely that this would happen so any deal made by Trump and Putin will be rejected by Ukraine, not just Zelenskyy. This will lead Trump to dump Ukraine and leave Europe alone to continue aiding Ukraine. 

I believe if it does come to this we’ll see a major shift in international relations and in the international system. I bet it’ll create four spheres of power between the US, Europe, China, and emerging markets.

GreatLibre

Trump will cut a deal with Putin and demand the Nobel peace prize. The deal will be for Putin to draw a new map of Ukraine to his liking. When Urkraine rejects the unconditional surrender Trump negotiated,  he will use that as evidence to convince Congress to cut all aid

Comfortable-Policy70

Let's see... hypothetically, what if the U.S. invaded Quebec Canada, and the war was ongoing for several years, and then the President of France met with the Prime Minister of Canada (excluding the U.S.) for negotiations, which ended with the U.S. ceding land to Canada. How do you think the fat Orange Wankpuffin would react?

JamisonUdrems

It's not a coincidence that Trump immediately offers up a deal that is 100% favorable to Russia less than a week after Russia's former president publicly reminded Trump and the rest of the world that Russia possesses video evidence of Trump's "past immoralities". Trump is 100% owned by Russia and Israel, and America is fucked while Trump remains in charge. Use the 25th Amendment or impeachment to remove Trump.

brianishere2

There is zero chance that Zelensky signs off on anything without security guarantees, which Trump won't provide. This is a waste of time

Objective_Aside1858

Based on what we have heard so far, namely, Ukraine retreating from Donbas with only vague promises of a ceasefire, is obviously a non-starter for Ukraine. You'd have to be completely naive to fall for that trick

Jukervic

If you look at a map of Russia, supplied by Putin, you will see that it shows lands that are Ukraine, now shown as part of Russia.


Putin will likely show this map to Trump and tell him that Zalenskyy needs to withdraw from Russian land and end the war.

Select_Insurance2000

How can America broker a deal on behalf of Ukraine without Ukrainian leadership's assent?

360Saturn

The elephant in the room: Taiwan 


Trump seems specifically concerned about a war in Ukraine continuing over the coming years and coinciding with any potential PRC action (ie reunification attempt) against Taiwan. Ditto for Iran getting the bomb before that happens. The regional power balance in Europe and the middle east can change very quickly in such a case and could be advantageous for Russia and Iran to take advantage of the historical opportunity. That's one of the ways regional wars escalate into world wars, because countries and militias alike are incentivized to cooperate in new ways in pursuit of vital interests.


I think many nations have been looking to the potential future Taiwan reunification attempt as a sort of d-day or h-hour they're counting down to. If you think about it, it has the potential to change a great many things in the world very quickly.

SpecialistLeather225

This is what he did in Afghanistan. Cut out the Afghani government from the transition and only deal with the Taliban.

Anodized12

**America is done with funding Ukraine war, says JD Vance**

The US vice-president says Europe has to play a bigger role in its ‘own back door’ as Donald Trump prepares set to meet Vladimir Putin on Friday

[https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/russia-ukraine-putin-donald-trump-meeting-europe-new-plan-ks2622s52](https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/russia-ukraine-putin-donald-trump-meeting-europe-new-plan-ks2622s52)

truth-4-sale

===&gt; Donald has invited Putin to Alaska to discuss peace and could involve swapping some Ukrainian land, without EU leaders or Zelensky in direct attendance. If such an Agreement is reached between the two will it be something Zelensky and EU can accept if Ukraine losses land in the process?


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The mighty Global Southerners (Africans, Asians and Latin Americans - 90% of the global population) better not allow the West or Russia to dictate the narrative !


What is relevant to them regarding the Putin - Trump summit in Alaska is,


1. dedollarization 


2. a multipolar world order




Will we have a deal between Russia and USA, with a secret part, where Russia agrees to no longer pursue the dedollarization agenda ?


Lets not forget that, dedollarization is the most important issue to USA at this point in time and BRICS+ or the Global Southerners the biggest threats.


We have to assume that, the issue was discussed in the preparation stage of the summit and the issue will be kept secret.


Regarding the Global Southerners, dedollarization is the single biggest issue on the planet at this point in time:


They are very much interested in dumping the USD ASAP because of the gigantic benefits they expect to get:




Who is gonna benefit most from dedollarization ?








That is absolutely obvious, it will be the mighty Global Southerners, 90% of the global population, as dedollarization means to them, besides peace and security, annual gain of tens of trillions of USD:








The Global South is very much interested in dumping the USD ASAP, also, because, when the USD is no longer the global reserve currency, 












1. the CIA won't have the money to bribe/corrupt millions of officials around the world 








2. USA won't have the resources to run thousands of covert operations annually in the Global South








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End of USD status = peace, stability, good governance, development &amp; prosperity in the Global South (but not in the USA and the rest of the West)




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That means, because the Global Southerners are mighty, they will continue with those two agendas with or without Russia.


Africa and South America for example are potentially self-sufficient and could do fine without trading with non-regional countries, and each can support their own global reserve currency, Asia can support two.
So, those Global Southerners will never allow again USA or the West to control their international trade settlement currencies, also, they could ban borrowing in non-regional currencies. 

FitEcho9

If/when this type of farcical and non-binding agreement happens, it will signal 3 things:

1. The US is done as a legitimate actor on the world stage for the next few decades. All hope of just waiting this current Trump regime out and a quick rebuild after? Gone.

2. The decoupling of the world's financial network from the US dollar(that is currently underway...) will accelerate.

3. The next major worldwide military conflict is going to happen much sooner than any of us could imagine. Why? Because NATO is fucking toast. This agreement Trump is all but crowing about is going to put in direct opposition to our *actual* allies in NATO.

I gave three things I think are inextricably linked to how Trump has behaved in regards to Ukraine since the first administration. If numbskull tries to cede land from an ally to an aggressor that we are bound by our own fucking law to protect them from since they gave over their inherited nukes in the 90s, we're done. It is just that simple, OP.

onikaizoku11

It’s not outside the realm of possibility that Trump will apologize and rescind the purchase of Alaska giving it back to Russia.

NightMgr

If Zelensky is not present during the meeting I don't think he should be asked to accept anything that comes of the meeting.

floofnstuff

It's the best deal Putin and his team of prized gimps in the white house can hope for

maybeafarmer

Donald Trump is willling to sell off my mothers butt plug to any willing buyer...Problem is my mom isnt getting rid of it..He can make any deal he wants over her buttplug but til he comes and pries it from her warm, gelatinous hands and pull it out by the teeth? it doesnt really matter does it......100% positive Trump is cutting deals with tons of other countries at war, to take the opposite sides land and proclaim peace..whats new? I know for certain if Zelensky offered half of his countries revenue to Trump and perhaps a castle and an oblast to run, then Trump would be willing to give Zelenski Moscow, a couple oblasts, some minor island chains and the rights to Starbucks in Russia..

littleredpinto

West needs East and South more than the other way round. West does not have any BS purpose e.g. democracy, peace.....they just need access to resources- their customers, their suppliers and natural resources. PERIOD. WEST HAS BEEN BS'ng from the last 500 years already. Now world is divided into West Vs Non West.

Traditional_Chef861

The real purpose of the meeting, I fear, is to arrange for midterm election help from Russia in exchange for throwing Ukraine under the bus.

Ukraine winning and joining the EU would strengthen European democracy and that would be bad for both an authoritarian US and an authoritarian Russia.

Bubbly-Two-3449

Putin will need a peace deal at some point. Ukraine has to agree obviously or the deal is worthless. They’re more than capable of taking the land back if Putin moves his assets elsewhere. Europe has to agree on EU membership, defensive installations etc etc. it’s going to take a lot of negotiating. Russians are scoundrels, untrustworthy, so Putin is really going to have to sell his peace to Ukraine and EU.

More than likely Putin is just going to coerce Trump into taking Russia’s side again. Shove the kompromat in his face etc.

vargsint

&gt;Some are even thinking about the choice of location for the discussion, Alaska once belonged to Moscow [sold to to the U.S. for 7.2 million dollars more about 158 years ago, before even the existence of USSR.]

Just a minor quibble, but when the sale of Alaska from Russia to the U.S. took place, Russia's capital was in St. Petersburg, not Moscow.

I've heard some Russians talk about taking Alaska back, although the reason they sold it in the first place was because, for them, it was more trouble than it was worth.  

&gt;If an Agreement is reached between the two [Trump and Putin] will it be something Zelensky and EU can accept if Ukraine losses significant land in the process?

I don't know, but Trump said he would end the war quickly.  But he can't seem to do that.  I'm not even sure what kind of agreement they can make, and even if they could agree, how can anyone be assured that Putin (or Trump) will hold up their end?

AnotherHumanObserver

Don't see how.  Ukraine has already ceded land for peace once before.  Continued loss of land leads to the same path Europe took that led to WWII.  Appeasement doesn't work with dictators.  Never has.  Never will.

UnusualAir1

Nope, and why would zelenskyy, he was crushing meat waves before we sent aid, and since then Russia has only tossed more metal and men in the blender, so if I was Ukrainian I’d fight till there was a sunflower growing where I dropped or my homeland was free.

Sofa-king-high

Putin has played Trump all through this process. Someone should explain it to Trump like a Real Estate Problem.  Let's say Mike Bloomberg squats three floors of Trump Towers.   Just moves in, doesn't pay, says this is mine.  I don't think Orangelo would accept ANY deal other than Bloomberg giving him his three floors back.  Trump will do whatever Putin wants.  I hope that the EU stand firm with Zelensky.

Scared-Avocado630

No.  Nor should it be. He and his foreign staff are morons. If they want to get a deal, they need to involve both parties. Even Europe. After all, Europe is supplying Ukraine the past year and has the most at stake. Finally, Trump is such a moron. He will agree to give 20% of Ukraine to Putin because Putin tells him too and then Trump will say it’s a great deal.

AdAgreeable3755

What lesson does Russia get from this almist 4 year war (which is about to surpass World war 1's length)

Russia would be embolden by its blatant attacks on a soverign and peaceful nation. Russia will learn that disrupting peace in Europe is okay (it isn't) and that taking land from its smaller and weaker neighbors is whilst denounced, isn't retaliated against (while that atleast attacks Putin or his Oligarchs)
This is not good, this more then not good. This is horrible.
Russia needs to end the invasion and needs to return the original borders. Anything less then this is appeasing a dictator and 1933 - 1944 has taught us that appeasing a dictator. Who has no real care to throw his sildiers lives away, and is now swapped to a war focused economy.
Any serious negotiations about Ukraine, needs Ukraine. That is the only answer.

Impossible_Income_96

How can two countries not at war can negotiate peace with a country which isn’t a part of negotiations?

Whatever-That-Memes

EU leaders have nothing to do with this not sure why anythinks they do?  For that matter nor does America. We should just host a Zelenksy and Putin meeting and let them work things out.

Lanracie

Why would a president if a country that has nothing to do with Europe think he can decide which land is given or not? Why doesn’t he give Alaska to Putin instead of Ukraine land ?

Puzzleheaded_Art_645

Will someone from the Ukraine please explain to me why Donald Trump (a pedophile that was sex trafficking with Putin) is in any way involved with what will happen to Ukraine? I seriously don't understand why he is even in the picture. This guy can just step up with his friend Putin and they get to decide who owns what land and rules what country? What country will they go after next? Why doesn't Zelensky just step up and tell Trump to butt the hell out?

50centourist

Maybe tRUMP is doing this because he wasn’t even considered for the Nobel PEACE prize. He is literally like a CHILD if he doesn’t get his way and everyone fawns over him; he has a hissy fit and “takes his marbles home!”

Less-Quote-5441

Russia could wipe out Ukraine with missiles but doesn’t, due to political backlash and close social ties. Zelensky provoked this by chasing NATO membership and now can’t lead his country out of the mess. Once the war ends, so will his career. The reality: territory will be taken, a buffer created. “Winning” against Russia is a fantasy — it only means endless war and endless cash for the US war machine

tor899

This  “Tête-à-tête” between two POSs will be unrecorded and undocumented where they will plan to confiscate power, wealth and destroy multiple countries at the expense of  millions of people’s lives. All for their fu&lt;king egos.

cgricsch

It would be interesting to see what Ukraine says about exchanging Donbas for Crimea.  Before the war, Donbas was a breakaway state, with most people speaking Russian, so giving Donbas to Russia probably would provide some social and political stability to Ukraine. And the economy of Crimea is slightly larger than that of Donetsk and Luhansk, so Ukraine getting back Crimea would be a fair exchange too.

Obviously, it sucks for Ukraine to cede anything to Russia at this point. But if there is ever going to be a peace deal that allows Russia to walk away from this with some modicum of self-respect, but leaves Ukraine in any sort of position that could be considered an improvement from where they were before the war, swapping Donbas for Crimea would probably be the most likely proposal.

dragnabbit

Should arrest him the moment he touches US soil.  And I guess they could arrest Putin too.

Archercrash

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy engaged with European and US leaders in Berlin ahead of a critical summit between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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